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Juan Luis
08/23/2023, 7:00 AMthe always provocative Pedram Navid strikes back https://databased.pedramnavid.com/p/what-the-hell-is-going-on-with-data what do you think?
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datajoely
08/23/2023, 8:15 AMI love this heading
Everyone Wants a Piece of the Pie, Nobody Wants to Bakeð 1
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For all the millions of dollars you raised off the backs of the jinja, how much have you donated back?I think the perspective is interesting - but is also possibly a function of zero interest rate phenomenon which is coming to a abrupt halt
with less room to create new stuff consolidation has to happen
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Juan Luis
08/23/2023, 8:22 AMI think people also get pissed when someone gives them free candy and then starts charging for it. it's a natural reaction and should make us reflect on the bait-and-switch dynamics that operate in the software industry
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datajoely
08/23/2023, 8:31 AMyes and the recent non-open sourcing moves from the likes of Hashicorp give pause for thought, as well as what Elastic had to do with the ELK stack
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Deepyaman Datta
08/24/2023, 1:52 AMI think people also get pissed when someone gives them free candy and then starts charging for it. it's a natural reaction and should make us reflect on the bait-and-switch dynamics that operate in the software industryTo be fair, the dbt use case isn't about them starting to charge; it's about them changing their pricing plan.
It's another thing to reflect on, that a lot of organizations happily go all-in on vendor products. Price hikes are an inherent risk when you use a commercial platform and don't weigh the pros/cons of not tying everything to that platform.
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datajoely
08/24/2023, 8:50 AMI suppose the point in dbt is that they can change their minds anytime